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  Is Satan Real ?

  by jdash in

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  i've been pondering on this question for awhile now, and i'm starting to think this malevolent spirit creature isn't real.

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  do you guys believe satan is real?

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  days of future passed

  Although I don't think he's real, once you've scrutinized the bible accounts and found God wanting - he seems like one angel that started critical thinking! And then got a bad rewrite. Those apostates!
  
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  God Cannot Lie, But God's Organization Can?

  by AmABeliever in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the recently leaked bethel training videos, both speakers state that inappropriate flirting really amounts to lying, as if a person is misrepresenting either his interest or availability to another person romantically.. we are reminded that the bible is very plain in its expressions on lying such as proverbs 12:22 which states it is detestable to god.

  so with the example given here, we must have a very high standard in separating what is truthful from what is not.. with that being the case, it shocks me that bethel would produce a video presented to all in attendance at the 2017 regional convention regarding the early 1970's, essentially rewriting history as to what actually happened.. is misrepresenting your past and misleading millions of followers not a much more extreme case of lying from those who claim to reject any form of lying no matter how small, such as flirting?

  would anyone like to add more examples to this thread?.

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  days of future passed

  There was a watchtower article I think in the last year or two, about lying. It showed the definition of what is a lie. (WT's version that is)
  

  Satan told Adam and Eve a lie - that is bad because it brought about their death.

  Rahab told an lie untruth - that is ok because it saved the Israelite spies from death.

  It's only a lie if it causes one of God's people harm. Telling a lie to someone that doesn't deserve the truth - isn't a lie and is commended.

  So much for loving "truth"
  
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  2018 Convention videos leaked by brave insiders

  by Room 215 in

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  2. friends

  anopther coup for cedars: http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/leaked-2018-convention-videos-celebrate-anti-lgbtq-bigotry-unquestioning-obedience-doomsday-fear-mongering

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  days of future passed

  These are my impressions of the three vids.

  • Dark and moody lighting.
  • The feeling that the events taking place, were from a movie about aliens, either living amongst humans or vice versa.
  • The ending phrases were direct messages of how the WT wants JW's to view events. Often, they are the opposite of what a normal human would think.

  The lightening gives the feeling of being in a secret place and time. How creepy was it, when the JW lady focused on the bracelets. Like seeing an identifying mark of an alien and trying to pretend you don't notice. And the one part where you saw the women standing in the gloom of this "store" all staring at her, was a classic horror/alien shot. Clearly, the JW lady didn't belong there. And isn't that what the WT wants each and every JW to feel like? The other people in this world, aren't like us. You belong with the other JW's. Then there is the obvious obnoxious stereotyping of a worldly person.

  The Phrase at the end of this part, was about the turning of the governments on false, then true religion. But I found myself expecting them to say "and wipe out all of those that support homosexuality" Certainly, it would have crossed my mind as a JW. And wouldn't a JW feel like they have been "persecuted" by all of those "judging" worldly people?

  The second one - The young lady that was upset over the how the congregation was divided - did any elder confer with people in the congregation on how they felt about being split up? No? You mean they just chose to stick people here and there without any consideration for their feelings? Is that the way empathetic shepherds are supposed to treat the flock? Tenderly caring for them? I see.

  She was the one with courage to stick up for herself. She wanted the other lady to take courage and stand up to a poor decision. Surely, this older sister that would be a help to her family and would enjoy having her family around her at the meeting, would be reasonable. Instead, she ran into others that were like the pod people. The elder behind them was just about to start shrieking and pointing his finger at the upstart sister, when the older sister tricked her into turning into a pod person herself.

  The young sister was wrong, it isn't courage to stand up for yourself, real courage is when you give up and blindly follow others.

  The young boy. When I saw the illustration, I saw Jesus coming to destroy people. And the people at the bottom, didn't have their fists clenched in defiance. Their hands were of desperation, reaching out, asking not to be killed. But the WT ignored that aspect. Instead it was about the child's personal safety. Fear of what would happen to him. That is natural. All humans faced with the idea of a supernatural force coming to wipe out people, would also be afraid of maybe making a mistake or sinning so that god might just smite them too. But wait, it was about fighting! Why would a child think he was supposed to fight the "bad" people? And the answer given to him about the "instructions" from the elders being unknown - yeah that is reassuring. I'm sure the green screen will be filled with dead bodies. Another WT tactic. How many kids will imagine relatives, the nice teacher at the school and non Jw friends lying there on the ground in the future? Even themselves. Hey if you show Noah and his family perishing in the flood because they didn't pay attention at the meetings, how much more so the kids today? But after all is said and done, the boy is smiling because he doesn't have to fight and god will take care of everything. (Er Jesus, he's supposed to be there fighting)
  
  
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  Just a LOL at a radio religions pitch

  by days of future passed in

  1. social
  2. humour

  i put it under the jokes heading because it made me laugh.

  sometimes, i don't know why, but i listen to a religious station on the way home from work.

  maybe because i just want to roll my eyes over their version of religious interpretation as well as see that they all do the same as the wt.. anyway, this particular preacher was at the end of his program.

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  days of future passed

  I put it under the jokes heading because it made me laugh. Sometimes, I don't know why, but I listen to a religious station on the way home from work. Maybe because I just want to roll my eyes over their version of religious interpretation as well as see that they all do the same as the WT.

  Anyway, this particular preacher was at the end of his program. In a loud and sincere voice he said "We provide this program with the sole support of God - Your earnest prayer on our behalf - And your financial contributions."

  After making it sound like they have God as their backer, the last thing they slip in, is the mention of financial contributions. LOL Really

  As a commercial, another religion plugged a "free" pamphlet on "God's Mighty Men" It was suggested that Men only ask for this pamphlet because it was "candid" and had "humor" on how a man could be one of God's Mighty Men and fulfill his position as head of his household. Of course, a wife could "gift" one to her man.

  After all this "pillow" talk stuff, I'm afraid that commercial took on a different meaning.
  
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  hijabs

  by road to nowhere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the news had macy's or some higher end store showing hijabs.

  i made the mistake of showing wife.

  her only comment was it was about time they made some modest clothing.

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  days of future passed

  Witness females are subjected to a strict dress code too, so why would she get upset over another female being forced to wear a tent?
  
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  So, I went to the memorial service of a man I have known since childhood...

  by Captain Schmideo2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have been on a fade for years, so this is the first time i have been in a kh for months.the deceased was barely 52 when he died.

  from cancer.

  one year younger than me.the memorial was the standard "read the obituary column word for word, then do the jw commercial for 25 minutes" plus a new twist (to me), they played a video called "around the corner" https://youtu.be/tfccoyp0vsu.

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  days of future passed

  It's sad. Throwing that video in at the end, also circumvents any natural sadness or expression of loss. Hey, don't worry, they'll come back, you just have to wait till the corner comes...

  If you have never seen "Dark City", something similar occurs in the story. I think it was "shell beach" that you could never get off the train for. It was advertised and promised, but you couldn't reach that destination.
  
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  What Music have you Been Listening to this Last Year ? Post You tubes if you Like !

  by flipper in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wktxjuyiat4.

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  days of future passed

  Beautiful

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5TJcaHO2gU
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  The music that goes through my head when I am at the Kingdom Hall!

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. social
  2. humour

  https://youtu.be/xvsrm80wzzk.

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  days of future passed

  Too bad this version doesn't have the floating doll and eye in it.
  
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  Did you become more antisocial after waking up?

  by paradiseseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been shy my whole life, but during my teenage years and early 20s i managed to be more comfortable socializing and made many friends in different parts of my country (jws of course).

  that was before i woke up, because i saw myself being a jw for the rest of my life and thus i made an effort to meet new jw friends.

  however, after i woke up, i lost interest in meeting new people because knowing that when i leave they will be gone... feels like a total waste of time and energy.

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  days of future passed

  I also am on the introverted side. I had older sisters as friends but not really the younger group.

  When I left, I felt like I could go out and meet lots of people and find friends. I thought extended family who had left, would now bond and be close. Those two things did not happen. So now I am basically alone. I haven't found any group I want to meet up with. There is one or two ladies I chat with at the the thrift stores, my sister, one guy at work, some present JW's at work who pretend that they don't recognize I don't go to meetings and so chat with me.

  I end up working and then going home to watch the computer.
  
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  They still manage to find me.

  by blisterfeet in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i grew up a jw, left at about 17 years old..(i'm 33 now) a little over a year ago i moved 1000 miles away from where i grew up.

  today i "ran" into someone in the same congregation as my dad... like how is that even possible?!?!?

  he was very kind, mentioned the borg but only in ways that related to his life.. his daughter is a pioneer, my dad gives "the best" comments at the meetings, my sister is awesome.. blah blah blah... .

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  days of future passed

  Coincidences do happen. Just don't let them tell you it was "jehovah" calling you back.... I don't think alot about JW stuff at the moment, but as soon as I go over to my mom's house (who will die as a JW ) various annoying thoughts come up about how my life was sucked away by this religion. Oh well.